Friday, October 29, 2004

Well, Duh!

By Russians? In a potential war zone?
How could this be?
France would never do such a thing.  They might get hurt.

Wednesday, October 27, 2004

Help us all, every one.

e-mail response from $enator Marshall-Fields regarding the pro FairTax e-mail I sent:

Thank you for contacting me about creating a flat tax and eliminating the current United States tax code.

The idea of a flat tax program may seem to simplify the current system, but abolishing our current program would not be the answer. Currently, our progressive income tax system requires taxation proportionate to the income that an individual makes. A wage-based flat tax would provide a tax cut for the wealthiest Americans, because the majority of their assets are not earned income. Under the same system, a taxpayer earning less than $27,000 would see his or her top tax rate increase by at least 2% under the current proposal. With a flat tax, not only would there be difficult transitional issues, but the burden of paying taxes would shift to the middle- and lower income citizens, and the poor.

My best regards.


Mark Dayton
United States Senator


My Reply:

Senator Dayton,

My e-mail did not concern a "flat tax", but the Fair Tax, which is a progressive national sales tax. You may want to read up on HR25 which was co-authored by Minnesota Representative Colin Peterson (D).

No matter which way you slice it the current tax code and the bloated bureaucracy of the IRS need to be scrapped since they reward failure and punish success. The current tax code acts as a wealth redistribution system in this country and is complex, unfair and immoral.

I will keep your views in mind on November 2, 2006.

Thank you.


I think I feel a case of Hyper-Cerebral Blogosis coming on...

Divide & Conquer

Excerpts from Jack Kinsella -

One could argue convincingly that America entered into a period of cold civil war on November 2nd, 2000. The post election recount debacle exposed Al Gore and his party as a 'second' America, and creating the 'Red State/Blue State divide.

All wars, even cold ones, have underlying causes. Taken to its lowest common denominator, the Red States believe that our rights are guaranteed by our Creator, whereas the Blue States believe they are guaranteed by government.

The Red States believe that certain things are so obviously wrong that defining them as wrong is unnecessary, whereas the Blue States are in a perpetual search for the next legal loophole.

Don't misunderstand -- I am not saying everybody in the Red States thinks one way, or that everybody in the Blue States thinks another. But in each case, the majority of voters do.

One can learn a lot about America by looking at what Americans think is funny. Jay Leno told one joke last night that captured the essence of the cold civil war ongoing between the two Americas.

"Al Gore accused President Bush of using religion to support his presidency. And George Bush fired back that 'Al Gore's just mad because God made me president.'"

The Al Gore joke is fitting, because it was Al Gore who first declared war on Red State America. Al Gore initially conceded defeat in 2000, going so far as to call George Bush on the telephone to congratulate him on his narrow victory.

The next morning, Al Gore awoke to find out just HOW narrow, called Bush, retracted his concession (unheard of in US political history) and launched an all-out assault on the election process itself.

He challenged the voting machines, the honesty of election officials, fought to suppress the military vote, attempted to disqualify entire categories of voters, and brought America to the edge of a Constitutional crisis that had to finally be solved by the US Supreme Court.

Losing seemed to unhinge Gore somewhat. In fact, John Podheretz speculated in a New York Post column that he believed Al Gore had gone legally insane. But the insanity infected Blue State America as well.

Blue State America (the Democrats) has spent the last four years systematically dismantling America, keeping its promise to destroy the Bush presidency by 'any means necessary' -- and at whatever cost.

Bob Just noted in a column that, "The furious fringe is taking over the party. They are solidified in their sense of victim hood. They aren't looking for compromise, but for total victory – revenge almost – in fulfilling their vision for a new America, one that has nothing to do with Christianity or Judaism, the pumping heart of true Americanism."

During the Iraq War, Blue America took every opportunity to undermine the administration -- and the United States, giving aid and comfort to the enemy, while reshaping world opinion of America with phrases like 'selected and not elected' and 'regime change' and 'Bush lied, people died'.

That it aided America's enemies is a no-brainer. The terrorists are crazy, but they are not stupid. They know that a divided America is easier to defeat and they are doubtless endlessly grateful for the daily reports from US newspapers that encourage them to persevere in their cause.

Just as the Democrats seem endlessly grateful to the terrorists for each act of terrorism, so that they can trumpet America's failures as evidence we are fighting the 'wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time' hoping to scare enough votes to their side so that they can win this year's election.

Consider this. The Kerry campaign told Fox News this weekend that they have recruited an army of TEN THOUSAND lawyers -- just in Florida -- to challenge the results of this election. John Kerry has announced that he will challenge the election results, whether the vote is close or not.

With less than two weeks to go before Election Day, an unprecedented number of lawsuits challenging basic election rules are pending in many of the battleground states.

"Bush v. Gore really let the genie out of the bottle," said Richard L. Hasen, an election law professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles. "Election law has become just another part of the political strategy of the parties."

Democratic legal specialists are ready to wage recount battles in as many as five states at once. The Kerry campaign said it has raised more than $3 million for legal expenses.

Incredibly, the Democrats are openly admitting that if they can't win the election, they intend to attempt a legal coup d'etat -- using an army of lawyers instead of armed revolutionaries -- but a coup effort nonetheless.

"This has been one of the top, if not the top, priorities," said the Kerry campaign's general counsel, Marc Elias. "The legal team is satisfied that we are working for a candidate who will not shy away from a full engagement with the other side."

The Kerry strategy is to win the election. For four years, the Democrats have been exploiting voter anger over Election 2000, promising Anybody but Bush will restore integrity to the electoral process.

But just in case, they have an army of ten thousand lawyers standing by to steal it. And, even if it doesn't work this time, the DNC thinks long-term.

If they can keep the 'selected not elected' label on Bush for another four-year term as a lame-duck, they hope America will be in such a mess by then that voters will rush to join the Blue States. That is the game plan, and it is already in play.

Tick . . . Tick . . . Tick. . .

My dead cat might have an opinion on that

Well, I thought I had pretty much heard from every anti-Bush group this year, but, alas, I was wrong.

The way we were?

From the Grand Potentate of Blogdom, James Lileks:

Keeping the country united? Good luck. Imagine FDR running a war with a press composed of cynical snickerers who derided the president as a rich old cripple who thought the best way to defeat Tojo was a war in North Africa and preached defeat every day through the hard slog of the Pacific theater. Imagine running a war with an entertainment industry that declined to make a single movie about the conflict - why, imagine a "Casablanca" where Rick and Sam argue about whether America started it all because they didn’t support the League of Nations. Imagine a popular radio drama running through the early 40s about a smart, charismatic, oh-so-intellectual Republican president whose bourbon baritone mocked FDR’s patrician whine, a leader who took no guff from Stalin OR Hitler! Lux Soap brings you, The West Wing of the White House! Imagine Thomas Dewey’s wife in 1944 calling the WW2 a war for oil; imagine former vice presidents insisting that FDR had played on our fears after Pearl Harbor. Imagine all that.

FDR won the 1944 election 25,602,504 votes to Dewey’s 22,006,285. And this was almost two million votes less than he got in 1940. Did he fail to unify the country, if half the voters wanted someone else? Or is that just how we always are, more or less?

If you found my measly scrap of internet flotsam I'm sure you're a regular reader of
The Daily Bleat. If you're not, you owe it to yourself.

Tuesday, October 26, 2004

Which World Military Power?

Take a look at these statistics and think about what they could mean in today's world:

709,000 Regular (active duty) Personnel.

293,000 Reserve Troops.

EIGHT Standing Army Divisions.

20 AIR FORCE and NAVY Air Wings with

19 Strategic Ballistic Missile SUBMARINES with
    500 ICBMs with 1,950 WARHEADS.

FOUR Aircraft Carriers
    121 Surface combat SHIPS and SUBMARINES
    Plus, all the support basesshipyardsand logistical assets needed to sustain such a naval force.





FRANCE? WRONG AGAIN (That's a lot of cheese and wine.)






Their elimination was 100% SUPPORTED BY JOHN KERRY (These are the ones he bothered to show up to vote on)

Well, we won the cold war, and the only enemy we faced was the Conservative movement in the USA.  Why not get rid of the troops and equipment?
We had programs to fund, failures to reward and successes to punish right here in the good ol' USA.

Besides, the UN or NATO would back us up. Right?  

Convene the UN subcommittee on frowning hard and saying harrumph!  The US has been attacked!

Get me another one of them "American Cowboys" for President, there's some respect to be taught - again.

Weak on de fence, and the window, and the yard...

Interesting little bit on the design of the sign. Seems Kerry is even weak on design along with defense.

Monday, October 25, 2004

From Cox & Forkum. Some people can see through the layers. Educate your misguided liberal friends on the difference between a Free Market Republic and Communism.

I'd worry about falling off the front step first.

A little huffy today

My side of a recent e-mail to a Poor Misguided Liberal:

No, Vietnam was not started by Kennedy, it was started by Truman.  But let's not let this part get lost - to BAIL OUT FRANCES ASS... AGAIN.
Eisenhower carries on the previous administration's policy and Kennedy escalates the whole thing as a show of strength to the Soviet Union. 
Johnson goes ape $#!^ and turns the thing into a circus.  Who ENDED it?  Nixon.  The whipping boy of the left for the last 30 years.  "Nixons war" they call it.  HUH!?  Nixon brought the boys back home to be promptly spit on by the John Kerry, liberal anti-war types who had demanded the boys come home. (Why are most liberal anti-war types Democrats, when they are the party that escalated the Vietnam war to such a level in the 60's?)
Really the war on Terrorism has been going on since Jimmy Carter failed to stand up to the Middle Eastern Mullahs in 1979.  Reagan was focused on defeating the Soviet Union.  Bush Sr, and Clinton all ignored the problem.  When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1989, the islamo-fascist movement (thinking THEY defeated the Soviet Union) turned their angry, toweled heads to the United States.  They escalated their war on us through the 90's while Clinton/Gore tackled the "real" threat to America, the anti-socialist movement, while ignoring the drumbeats of war from the islamo-fascists.

A little hisory for you.  Shortly after Ayatollah Khomeini seized power in Iran, riding the slogan "Death to America" -, the attacks on Americans soon began. In November 1979, a militant Islamic mob took over the U.S. embassy in Tehran, the Iranian capital, and held 52 Americans hostage for the next 444 days.

The rescue team sent to free those hostages in April 1980 suffered eight fatalities, making them the first of militant Islam's many American casualties. Others included:

April 1983: 17 dead at the U.S. embassy in Beirut.

October 1983: 241 dead at the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut.

December 1983: five dead at the U.S. embassy in Kuwait.

January 1984: the president of the American University of Beirut killed.

April 1984: 18 dead near a U.S. airbase in Spain.

September 1984: 16 dead at the U.S. embassy in Beirut (again).

December 1984: Two dead on a plane hijacked to Tehran.

June 1985: One dead on a plane hijacked to Beirut.

After a let-up, the attacks then restarted: Five and 19 dead in Saudi Arabia in 1995 and 1996, 224 dead at the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in August 1998 and 17 dead on the USS Cole (US SOIL!)  in Yemen in October 2000.

Simultaneously, the murderous assault of militant Islam also took place on U.S. soil:

July 1980: an Iranian dissident killed in the Washington, D.C. area.

August 1983: a leader of the Ahmadiyya sect of Islam killed in Canton, Mich.

August 1984: three Indians killed in a suburb of Tacoma, Wash.

September 1986: a doctor killed in Augusta, Ga.

January 1990: an Egyptian freethinker killed in Tucson, Ariz.

November 1990: a Jewish leader killed in New York.

February 1991: an Egyptian Islamist killed in New York.

January 1993: two CIA staff killed outside agency headquarters in Langley, Va.

February 1993: Six people killed at the first World Trade Center bombing. 

March 1994: an Orthodox Jewish boy killed on the Brooklyn Bridge.

February 1997: a Danish tourist killed on the Empire State building.

October 1999: 217 passengers killed on an EgyptAir flight near New York City.

In all, 800 persons lost their lives in the course of attacks by militant Islam on Americans before September 2001 - more than killed by any other enemy since the Vietnam War. (Further, this listing does not include the dozens more Americans in Israel killed by militant Islamic terrorists.)

Add to this the 3,025 who died on September 11, 2001.

Bush is the first US president to tackle the problem head on.  You think it's gonna go away if you just ignore it? You think they want to sit down and "talk about it"?  That is the policy we had up until September 12, 2001.  Worked pretty good, didn't it?
We have gone into Iraq to:
1.) Tear down the MOST oppressive regime in the world and free a people we teased with freedom twice and failed, due to gutless political decisions by ineffective leaders concerned with re-election and polls.
(No, Korea is not next since the people there will soon run out of neighbors to eat and will eventually turn on Kim Jong Ill or there won't be anyone left for him rule since they have to eat each other to survive.)
2.) Tear down the terrorist training facilities that were being built within the country. (Zarqawi's group fled Afganistan for safe harbor in Iraq, which he got from Saddam)
3.) Prevent the collaboration of Al Quida groups and Saddam. He was already funding Hamas and was preparing to work with Al Quida.
4.)  If you have rats, you don't set the traps in your bed, you set them where the rats are. In the dark corners and crawl spaces.  Terrorists are the same as rats.
We are focusing their venom on us in Iraq rather than here.  Which one do you want, you only have two choices. Military attacks in a foreign lands or random attacks on civilians in the US.
If you're looking for Iraq's WMD's, look in the Bekka Valley in Syria.  There's a lot of French made weaponry that appeared on train cars from Iraq during that year long "Rush to War".
We should have just let all that go?  It's not our business?  We have more important things to worry about in the US, like how many people are getting free condoms or that we don't measure up to Europe's failed model of socialism?  The US Government owes you something?  John Kerry is promising everyone healthcare and a job, the Chinese do the same thing, and they even pick the job for you!  You also get mandatory abortion and state sponsored euthanasia, UTOPIA!
There is an exit strategy for Iraq.  Iraqi's taking over their own military, police and government.  It's similar to our exit strategy in WWII.  Oh, BTW, we are FINALLY pulling out of Germany after a 57 year "occupation", and you're worried about a 2 year operation?  It takes a while to teach people how to be free, when they have never known freedom in their lifetime.  Insuring others in the world have the opportunity to provide themselves with the United States standard of living is our responsibility, we might even say it should be the standard for passing the "Global Test"? 
So, we're really talking about 25 years of half-assed US involvement in the Middle East, with the lesson being - don't go in if you don't have the focus or the stomach to stay until the job is done.
When you go into a game, a deal or a war, you don't know if you're going to win, you assume it. 
Otherwise, what's the point of trying to win or improve anything?

But then that may have been your point.

Wednesday, October 20, 2004

I'll be gone for the rest of the week. I leave you with a little beauty to contrast the last week of brain drool. See you next week! Ya better come back, den dere. You betcha.

H. Thomas Hayden: Failure Is Not an Option

That's not bias, that's fact, man.

CNN's HOWARD KURTZ: "It is a tight race. Do you believe that most reporters want John Kerry to win?"
NEWSWEEK'S EVAN THOMAS: "Yeah, absolutely."
KURTZ: "Do you think they're deliberately tilting their coverage to help John Kerry and John Edwards?"
THOMAS: "Not really."
KURTZ:"Subconsciously tilting their coverage?"
KURTZ:"Including at Newsweek?"
KURTZ:"You've said on the program 'Inside Washington' that because of the portrayal of Kerry and Edwards as young and optimistic, that's worth maybe 15 points. That would suggest."
THOMAS:"Stupid thing to say. It was completely wrong. I do think that the mainstream press, I'm not talking about the blogs and Rush and all that, but the mainstream press favors Kerry. I don't think it's worth 15 points. That was just a stupid thing to say."
KURTZ:"Is it worth five?"
THOMAS:"Maybe, maybe."
(CNN's Reliable Sources, October 17, 2004)

Tuesday, October 19, 2004

Welcome to America!

If you are one of the thousands of scumbags that tries to sneak into the United States along our north or south border, you'll be greeted by one of these little babies.
The Department of Homeland security is using this UAV in some of the biggest problem areas along the northern and southern borders.
Now, if we can just get them to arm them with something other than a camera...
Thanks Israel.  They know a little something about securing borders too.

Yet MORE proof John Kerry is an idiot

From the US CPB, part of the Bush failure - the Homeland Security Department...
Fact Sheet: Cargo Container Security - U.S. Customs and Border Protection Reality
Only a small number of the containers that come into the ports are inspected.
Summary of Reality:
We use intelligence to screen information on 100% of cargo entering our ports, and all cargo that presents a risk to our country is inspected using large x-ray and radiation detection equipment.
Following 9/11, the Administration developed and implemented a smarter strategy to identify, target, and inspect cargo containers before they reach U.S. ports. Anyone can secure a nation by closing its borders and inspect everything and everybody that enters. Closing the borders is not an option.
None of the security measures implemented as a result of this strategy existed before 9/11.
Our strategy is to rule out potential threats before arrival at our borders and ports. In fact, the security measures now in place allowed us to rule out 94% of the cargo as potential threats prior to arrival. This year, six percent (6 %) of total cargo containers were identified as potential threats and were physically inspected immediately upon arrival. (The percentage will change annually because the inspections are based upon identified risk following intensive screening.) Dramatically increasing physical inspections after arrival is a waste of resources that will not appreciably increase our national security. In fact, the type of increase in physical inspections implied by this allegation would cost billions of dollars in resources and cripple not only our economy, but the global economy as well.
Key Facts That Did Not Exist Before 9-11:
We use intelligence to review information on 100% of all cargo information entering U.S. ports, and all cargo that presents a risk to our country is inspected using large x-ray and radiation detection equipment.
Following 9/11, under the leadership of President Bush we developed and implemented a smart cargo container security strategy to identify, target, and inspect cargo containers before they reach U.S. ports. Under this strategy:
All containers, 100%, identified as posing a terrorist risk are inspected using x-ray scans and radiation detection equipment. (i.e. Potential for concealment of terrorist weapons or terrorists.)
The Administration requires that advance information be given to our border agency, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, about all containers well before they arrive. In fact, the information is required 24 hours before they are loaded on to vessels at foreign seaports (24-Hour Rule).
Containers posing a potential terrorist threat are identified and targeted before they arrive at U.S. seaports by the National Targeting Center (NTC). The NTC was established as the centralized coordination point for all of CBP’s anti-terrorism efforts. Prior to 9/11, no national level targeting of people or goods crossing our borders existed.
NTC uses intelligence and terrorist indicators to review advance information for all cargo, passengers, and imported food shipments before arrival into the U.S.
NTC coordinates with other federal agencies such as U.S. Coast Guard, Federal Air Marshals, FBI, Transportation Security Administration, and the Departments of Energy and Agriculture, as well as the intelligence community.
The Administration works with our foreign partners to allow U.S. officers working at major international seaports, currently 26, to identify and inspect containers prior to being loaded onto ships destined for the U.S. Container Security Initiative (CSI)
The Administration created a public-private and international partnership with over 7,000 businesses, including most of the largest U.S. importers -- the Customs-Trade Partnership Against Terrorism (C-TPAT). Under this program, legitimate companies that do regular business with the U.S. have increased their own security to prevent terrorists from infiltrating their shipments. (We check not only the company shipping the goods, but also the companies that provided them with any services.)
Approximately 40% of all cargo headed for the U.S. is transported by C-TPAT partners and is therefore better secured.
Additional technology has been added, including Radiation Portal Monitors, Isotope Identifiers, and Personal Radiation Monitors. For the first time CBP has added chemical and explosive detector dogs.

Fair shake for the Fair Tax

"As a nonpartisan group forwarding a well-researched full replacement for income and Social Security taxation, we are appalled to discover the Democratic Congressional Committee's series of mailings misrepresenting our legislation, targeted for congressional races where the Republican challenger appears to be winning," said FairTax.org Executive Director Tom Wright.  "They have twisted the truth about our bill and launched a national, partisan attack on our progressive national retail sales tax - the FairTax.  This follows millions of dollars in misleading TV ads in several states, and most recently thousands of our members and the American public were subjected to potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars in 'push polls' against a national sales tax."

A series of mailings are scheduled to begin this week, funded by the DCCC on the bipartisan FairTax Bill, HR25/S 1493.  These mailings are chock full of misrepresentations, falsehoods, and lies about the national sales tax. 

Therefore, it is now time to provide some facts and the truth on the FairTax.

The FairTax ends federal paycheck deductions of all kinds; the workingman or woman gets a full paycheck.  The plan is a total replacement for all income and Social Security taxes:  Personal, gift, estate, capital gains, alternative minimum, earned income tax credit, Social Security, Medicare, self-employment, and corporate taxes.  The FairTax virtually eliminates the IRS.

The FairTax plan is revenue neutral; it neither raises nor lowers taxes.  The rate is set to raise the same revenue the replaced taxes raise today.  For most taxpayers, that is a zero sum game, neither raising nor lowering their taxes.  As an organization, we wish to remove ourselves from battles over tax hikes or cuts, special interests, winners and losers.  While the FairTax will make federal taxes very, very obvious (and easy for taxpayers to control themselves), there is no intention to give large groups any break over what they are paying now, nor to burden another group. 

The FairTax is a progressive tax. 

Only the biggest spenders pay the maximum rate; those at or below the poverty level pay an honest and transparent nothing.

No one living at or under the poverty level as determined the by the Department of Health & Human Services will pay any federal tax (hidden or obvious) on any of their spending.  Today our working poor are burdened with the most regressive tax of all, Social Security, which they pay with every paycheck their entire working lives.  The FairTax ends that.

The FairTax does not raise costs, since it does not raise taxes.

According to Dale Jorgenson, Harvard economics professor, people on fixed income (and every other consumer in America) pay an average of 22 percent in hidden corporate taxes and compliance costs with every good they buy.  Hidden taxes on services average 25 percent.  The FairTax ends this.  Competition is going to force the prices on goods and services to come down once the providers of these goods and services find that they can purchase them at lower prices.  The FairTax does not tax used goods.  And finally, a rebate zeros the tax up to the poverty level.  

For more on the national sales tax please visit us at www.fairtax.org or call


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Monday, October 18, 2004

 Posted by Hello

More on Kerrys voting record

Kerry has voted for at least SEVEN major reductions in Defense and Military spending, necessary for our national security:

1) In 1996 - Introduced Bill to slash Defense Department Funding by $6.5 Billion.

2) In 1995 - Voted to freeze Defense spending for 7 years, slashing over $34 billion from Defense.

3) Fiscal 1996 Budget Resolution - Defense Freeze. "Harkin, D-Iowa, amendment to freeze defense spending for the next seven years and transfer the $34.8 billion in savings to education and job training."

4) In 1993 - Introduced plan to cut numerous Defense programs, including:

  • Cut the number of Navy submarines and their crews
  • Reduce the number of light infantry units in the Army down to one
  • Reduce tactical fighter wings in the Air Force
  • Terminate the Navy's coastal mine-hunting ship program
  • Force the retirement of no less than 60,000 members of the Armed Forces in one year.

5) Has voted repeatedly to cut Defense spending, including:

  • In 1993, voted against increased Defense spending for Military Pay Raise. Kerry voted to kill an increase in military pay over five years.
  • In 1992, voted to cut $6 billion from Defense.
  • In 1991, voted to slash over $3 Billion from Defense. Shift money to social programs.
  • In 1991, voted to cut defense spending by 2%
  • Voted repeatedly to cut or eliminate funding for B-2 Stealth Bomber
  • Voted repeatedly against Missile Defense - Weapons Kerry sought to phase out were VITAL in Iraq. "[K]erry supported cancellation of a host of weapons systems that have become the basis of US military might-the high-tech munitions and delivery systems on display to the world as they leveled the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein in a matter of weeks." (Brian C. Mooney, "Taking One Prize, Then A Bigger One," The Boston Globe, 6/19/03)

  • Military hardware he felt we no longer need since the "cold war" is past. The money would be better spent on "social" programs. These weapons are now the core of our military might.
    • F-16 Fighting Falcons.
    • B-1Bs B-2As F-15 And F-16s
    • M1 Abrams
    • Patriot Missile
    • AH-64 Apache Helicopter
    • Tomahawk Cruise Missile
    • Aegis Air-Defense Cruiser

6) During 1980s Kerry And Michael Dukakis joined forces with liberal group dedicated to slashing Defense. Kerry sat on the board of "Jobs With Peace Campaign," which sought to "develop public support for cutting the defense budget..."("Pentagon Demonstrators Call For Home-Building, Not Bombs," The Associated Press, 6/3/88)

7) While running for Congress in 1972, Kerry promised to cut Defense Spending. "On what he'll do if he's elected to Congress," Kerry said he would 'bring a different kind of message to the president." He said he would, "Vote against military appropriations." ("Candidate's For Congress Capture Campus In Andover," Lawrence [MA] Eagle-Tribune, 4/21/72)

"So you can look at all the potential threats of the world, and when you add the expenditures of all of our allies to the United States of America, you have to stop and say to yourself, 'What is it that we are really preparing for in a post-cold-war world?'"
(Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 5/15/96, p. S5061)

Who's with us?

I wish I had my blog up and running two years ago, then I would have evidence to show that I was saying this back then!
Monday, October 18, 2004

Charles Duelfer told the Senate Armed Services Committee earlier this month he could not rule out Saddam's transfer of Iraqi missiles and weapons of mass destruction to Syria.

Duelfer, an adviser to the CIA, said at the Oct. 6 hearing that a large amount of material had been transferred by Iraq to Syria before the March 2003 war.

"A lot of materials left Iraq and went to Syria," Duelfer said. "There was certainly a lot of traffic across the border points. We've got a lot of data to support that, including people discussing it. But whether in fact in any of these trucks there was WMD-related materials, I cannot say."

The Iraq Survey Group, headed by Duelfer, said Russia, Syria, Jordan and other arms suppliers were paid from Iraqi oil revenues.

A CIA report, authored by the Iraq Survey Group, identified Russia and Syria atop a list of 12 arms suppliers to Iraq until the U.S.-led war against Baghdad started in March 2003.

The report listed Russia and Syria above North Korea — regarded as the leading missile proliferator to the Middle East — as leading suppliers to Baghdad.

Jordan was the third largest supplier of weapons to Iraq.

After Jordan came Belarus, China, India, North Korea, South Korea, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Ukraine, France, Romania and Turkey. The report said these countries were involved in both "weapons of mass destruction and arms-related procurement."

The report said Saddam diverted money from the UN oil-for-food program to pay for both conventional and nonconventional weapons and components.

The report said state-owned companies in Russia and Syria defied UN sanctions and supplied weapons and platforms to Baghdad. The report said Syria also served as the leading route for illegal arms supplies from Europe and other countries.

Several of Iraq's neighbors were said to have joined in the secret military effort to aid Baghdad. The report — based on interviews with senior Iraqi officials and 40 million pages of documents and classified intelligence — cited Jordan and Turkey as leading suppliers to the Saddam regime.


Russia, Syria, Jordan, Belarus, China, India, North Korea, South Korea, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Ukraine, France, Romania and Turkey

These must be the countries John Kerry is lamenting are not in the coalition. :-*
Let's see where the world stands, shall we?

Blue - In Coalition
Red - Supplied Weapons to Saddam
Purple - Did Both (the real bastards!)

Grey - Against US position verbally only
Black - Not committed publicly

Antigua and Barbuda
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Brunei Darussalam
Burkina Faso
Burma (Myanmar)
Cape Verde
Central African Republic
Congo, Democratic Republic of the 
Costa Rica
Côte d'Ivoire
Czech Republic 
Dominican Republic 
East Timor
El Salvador
England (U.K.)
Equatorial Guinea
Great Britain (U.K.)



Korea, North
Korea, South 
Marshall Islands
The Netherlands
New Zealand

Northern Ireland (U.K.)
Palestinian State*
Papua New Guinea

St. Kitts and Nevis
St. Lucia
St. Vincent and The Grenadines
San Marino
São Tomé and Príncipe
Saudi Arabia
Scotland (U.K.)
Serbia and Montenegro
Sierra Leone
Solomon Islands
South Africa
Sri Lanka
Trinidad and Tobago 
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom
United States
Vatican City (Holy See) 
Wales (U.K.)
Western Sahara*


No flaming bag of dog poop award for you!

And this is why I'll vote for him again.

-----Original Message-----
From: Opinion@coleman.senate.gov [mailto:Opinion@coleman.senate.gov]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 2:21 PM

Thank you for taking the time to contact me regarding your support for a
national sales tax. I appreciate your attention to this important
national issue.

At the present time, there are a number of legislative proposals that
would replace the tax code with a national sales tax. For instance,
Senator Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) has introduced legislation that would
replace the individual income tax, the corporate income tax, the payroll
tax, the self-employment tax and the estate and gift tax with a 23
percent national sales tax. In addition, a bill authored by now retired
Representative Billy Tauzin (R-LA) would repeal both the individual and
corporate income tax, the estate and gift tax and some of the federal
excise taxes and put in place a 15 percent national sales tax.

I understand your concerns regarding the complexity of our tax code. In
1955, there were 744,000 words in the tax code. By 2000 this number grew
to 6.9 million. Currently, there are 325 separate forms to be filled
out, and taxpayers spend more than 5.8 billion hours each year preparing
them. In addition, estimates are that taxpayers spend almost $200
billion each year in complying with the tax laws. There is no doubt
that the tax code and the forms are burdensome, onerous, and unduly
complicated. The vast majority of Americans now require professional
help to fill out a tax return.

You may be interested to know that during the consideration of the Jobs
and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003, I supported a sense of
the Senate urging the Senate Finance Committee and the Congressional
Joint Economic Committee to undertake a comprehensive analysis of tax
simplification, including the national sales tax, and to hold
appropriate hearings on the issue.

Please know that I will continue to be an advocate of simplifying and
streamlining the tax code at every opportunity, and will continue to
support alternatives such as a national sales tax.

Thank you once again for contacting me. I value your advice. If I can
be of further assistance to you in the future, please do not hesitate to
contact me.

Senator Norm Coleman

More old stuff from the early 80's

Growing up, the logo for this local bank symbolized Fargo for me. The 2nd tallest building in the city at the time and best looking of the two, the building holds a place of honor at the foot of Broadway. It still dominates the skyline beating out the hideous Fargo High Rise and the boring mid 80's style of the Radisson tower. The village west location hasn't changed significantly. Not too many years after this ad, Fargo National Bank was purchased by First Interstate Bank. The buildings are currently home to Community First Bank. Posted by Hello

Oh what a difference 20 years can make. Here's a shot of the heart of North Dakota commerce from the 1982 Binford Guide. View is to the South West with the intersection of I29 and 13th Ave S in the center. I have dropped in the names of the larger business to surround the area. The area in this photo is now almost compeletly developed to the tree line at the horizon. Posted by Hello

Hannity in Fargo

I forgot the camera so I stole the picture from the Fargo Forum.
Sean Hannity appeared at the Fargo Air Museum on Saturday, drawing a crowd of about 1,200-1,300 people to listen to him and for the opportunity to have a copy of Deliver Us From Evil signed by the author (yes I got one).
"It would be the equivalent of removing Winston Churchill before World War II ended" If Americans don't re-elect President George W. Bush Hannity said.
"President Bush has a sense of right and wrong and decency and moral clarity," he said. "He has what it takes to preserve, protect and defend the greatest country in the world."
Sean left no liberal stone unturned, Daschle, Carville, Clinton(s), Kerry and Ted *hic* Kennedy were all attacked (rightly so) for their left wing tactics.  Audience participation was also encouraged as one memeber of the crowd came forward to do a very good Howard Dean screech.
At one point Hannity asked for the liberal in the crowd to come forward, when he did Hannity asked him to name one specific thing Kerry had accomplished in his years of service in the Senate. Of course he couldn't, underlining the fact that  Kerry is a poor choice for president.
He pointed to Kerry's record on military spending, Iraq and increasing taxes as other reasons.
Many Kerry supporters say they're voting for Kerry only because they're AGAINST Bush. Is this the best qualification they can find in John Kerry, that he's not Bush?
The highlight of the day came when 9-year-old Miranda stole the show by singing her rendition of "I Love My Country" bringing many of those gathered for the event to their feet and some to tears.
My highlight of the day was meeting the two Vietnam Veterans who flanked me on my left and right.  I felt really small standing between these two men and under the landing gear of the fully restored Grumman TBF Avenger.  As they swapped stories, I broke in and told them that while they were risking all in a foreign land 33 years ago, I was filling my Pampers.  I offered both a sincere Thank You for all they did to help keep me free and giving me the right to attend such functions as this one.
As a matter of fact, for all you Veterans reading this, from a humble 34 year old, THANK YOU.
All in all it was great to see there are some level headed North Dakotans in a community with 3 Universities.  As the self appointed guardian of the Minnesota northern front, I may have to let down my guard to the impending Dakotan invasion.  We could use some of that good old down home common sense to infiltrate the Twin Cities. 
Imagine 500,000 North Dakotans invading the liberal bastion of Minneapolis/St. Paul from the north.  Push them back to the coasts where they belong!

Photo Ann Arbor Miller / The Forum
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Friday, October 15, 2004

I know, I know, but sometimes you spend a lot of spare time on something and you don't want to put it in the trash (recycle bin for you windows users). I'm done now. Have a good weekend. Posted by Hello

I really like this early 60's concept for the garage of the future. Not so fond of the furniture, but I like the concept of an "indoor" outdoor area off the garage. I wouldn't mind the car either. Up in these parts, you'd want to keep your garage door opening to a minimum during the nasty bits of winter though. Posted by Hello

Some things die hard

Hmmm. There's an analogy in here somewhere...
I am a Scout Leader... and a blog is like a little newspaper... Nah.
A few more whacks with the aluminum bat should kill it.
[poking with stick]
[nudge with foot]
There.  It's done then.
A moment of silence please for the life that it took on and we so cruelly had to take back.

We're down to 3. Since Lileks is out, in no uncertain terms, I haven't decided if I'm going to support Mark Kennedy or the Cantaloupe yet. I think Kennedy would have a better policy than the fruit, or the Cantaloupe for that matter. Posted by Hello

Thursday, October 14, 2004

Hannity to hit Fargo/Moorhead

Saturday, October 16th, 2004
Fargo, ND

Time: Speech at 1pm CST followed by a limited book signing at 2pm CST
Place: Fargo Air Museum

Details: Seating is limited to the first 900 fans. Standing room only for the remainder...total capacity will be about 2,500. Space is limited....first come, first served. The first 500 Sean Hannity fans through the door will receive the opportunity to purchase Sean's latest New York Times best-selling book "Deliver us from Evil". Because of time-constraints, Sean will only be able to sign the 500 books available for sale to the first 500 through the door. The event is FREE! No Ticket is required! Don't miss this opportunity to see and hear the host of the Sean Hannity Radio show heard on WDAY AM 970 and nearly 500 stations across the nation...plus the co-host of the #1 political debate program on TV...Hannity & Colmes on the Fox news Channel.

Details and Pictures Monday (If I get in). Posted by Hello

That'll do it.

With all of my lamentations over the rash of vandalism of Bush/Cheney signs and stickers, I never thought of this...

Kerry: "What I can promise you is that I will make the playing field as fair as possible, that I will, for instance, make certain that with respect to the tax system that you as a worker in America are not subsidizing the loss of your job".
Communist Manfesto: "The weapons with which the bourgeoisie felled feudalism to the ground are now turned against the bourgeoisie itself. But not only has the bourgeoisie forged the weapons that bring death to itself; it has also called into existence the men who are to wield those weapons -- the modern working class -- the proletarians."

Kerry: We have fought to try to raise the minimum wage in the last years. But the Republican leadership of the House and Senate won't even let us have a vote on it. We're not allowed to vote on it. They don't want to raise the minimum wage. The minimum wage is the lowest minimum wage value it has been in our nation in 50 years.
If we raise the minimum wage, which I will do over several years to $7 an hour, 9.2 million women who are trying to raise their families would earn another $3,800 a year.
The president has denied 9.2 million women $3,800 a year, but he doesn't hesitate to fight for $136,000 to a millionaire.
One percent of America got $89 billion last year in a tax cut, but people working hard, playing by the rules, trying to take care of their kids, family values, that we're supposed to value so much in America -- I'm tired of politicians who talk about family values and don't value families.
What we need to do is raise the minimum wage. We also need to hold onto equal pay. Women work for 76 cents on the dollar for the same work that men do. That's not right in America.
And we had an initiative that we were working on to raise women's pay. They've cut it off. They've stopped it. They don't enforce these kinds of things.
Now, I think that it a matter of fundamental right that if we raise the minimum wage, 15 million Americans would be positively affected. We'd put money into the hands of people who work hard, who obey the rules, who play for the American Dream.
And if we did that, we'd have more consumption ability in America, which is what we need right in order to kick our economy into gear. I will fight tooth and nail to pass the minimum wage.

Communist Manifesto: The average price of wage labor is the minimum wage, i.e., that quantum of the means of subsistence which is absolutely requisite to keep the laborer in bare existence as a laborer. What, therefore, the wage laborer appropriates by means of his labor merely suffices to prolong and reproduce a bare existence. We by no means intend to abolish this personal appropriation of the products of labor, an appropriation that is made for the maintenance and reproduction of human life, and that leaves no surplus wherewith to command the labor of others. All that we want to do away with is the miserable character of this appropriation, under which the laborer lives merely to increase capital, and is allowed to live only in so far as the interest of the ruling class requires it. . . "

Kerry: "But I think it makes sense, I think most Americans in their guts know, that we ought to pass a sort of truth standard. That's how you gain legitimacy with your own countrypeople, and that's how you gain legitimacy in the world. "
Communist Manifesto: United action of the leading civilized countries at least is one of the first conditions for the emancipation of the proletariat. In proportion as the exploitation of one individual by another will also be put an end to, the exploitation of one nation by another will also be put an end to. In proportion as the antagonism between classes within the nation vanishes, the hostility of one nation to another will come to an end.

But did he have affordable health insurance?

John Kerry was heard to lament after hearing of the procedure...

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Lileks for Senate 06

I wish I knew when to quit sometimes...
Some of the public input I have received at lileksforsenate.com on the concept of Lileks running for US Senate:
From Carl: "He is way too smart to join the “black hole” called the Senate.  Too many good ideas enter the hallowed halls if this debating chamber and simply disappear, vanish, poof, like a vapor, like the spring grass that withers and is seen no more.  Would you really want to subject Lileks to that?  Besides there’s the Gnat factor.  He may like Minnesotans but he loves Gnat and you will never separate the two.  Bravo to him for it."
From Fredrick: "Brilliant idea."
From Jack: "I can offer my guest house in downtown Phoenix as the Lileks Western White House."

From Guy: "I support the Draft Lileks action.  And please tell that blowhard Garrison Keillor to shut up."
From Jorge: "If he does not want to run in Minnesota perhaps we could have him in Mexico?"
From Phil: "Put me down for $500 to his official campaign committee when he announces."
From Daniel: "Having the Gnat running up and down the corridors of power could only improve things."

From Alex: "
Tell him to please consider it seriously.  We need people like him in Congress. I live in Florida... maybe I could arrange a few chads to dimple his way."

From Emily: "I think he would be an excellent representative of my beliefs.  I am a graduate student at the University of Minnesota, so I can't contribute finacially, but I can offer my time to help."
From Cliff: "...but you can't try to take him away from Gnat and wife and the Bleat and the matchcover collecting and the rest without his ENTHUSIASTIC consent..."
From Brad: "James.................... do it for Gnat !!!"
From Diana: "Keep working this, please.  Americans need him."
From Bee: "He may be doing more good where he is."

Well if we'd just try harder to understand them...

Showtime, the sister company of CBS, is mulling over a new series called "The Cell." The program would present the terrorists' side of the story.

Episodes would be told from the point of view of converts to Islam who are plotting terrorist attacks in the U.S.

"We're trying to look into the minds of these [terrorists] and the issues driving them, beyond a black-and-white portrayal," Showtime entertainment president Robert Greenblatt told the New York Post.

The network is apparently still deciding whether to commit to a series.

The idea comes from Cyrus Voris and Ethan Reiff, who created the 1998 Fox drama "Brimstone."

"Popular culture was trivializing the terrorism issue in an escapist, comic-book way, and it really pissed us off," says Reiff. "You'd either see a generic Eurotrash terrorist or rogue CIA agent or an oil company conspiracy."

Voris says, "You can't deal with such a complex issue like a James Bond film." He explains, "There was a huge disconnect with what was being shown and what we wanted to deal with."


Part of a kinder, gentler American policy toward terrorism?

The lileks for senate headquarters. Things can only go downhill from here. Posted by Hello

Wednesday, October 13, 2004

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Yet another view of a car very similar to my first car. Posted by Hello

The next senatorial race from Minnesota? Posted by Hello

2006 Senate race

If the 2006 elections were held today, who would you vote for to hold the office of US Senator from Minnesota?
So far Lileks is beating the Cantelope  81% to 18%.
The Cantelope is beating Sen Dayton 18% to 0%.

King Kerry at a local town hall meeting.Thanks Duff. Posted by Hello

There's just something about your first car. At 16, I started driving in a yellow 1979 Firebird with a 4.9l V-8. I've had many over the years, but none have come close to my first. Posted by Hello

Tuesday, October 12, 2004

It's up and running

If you, like me, are ready for new representation for Minnesota in the US Senate, check out the movement to draft journalist and blogger James Lileks in the 2006 election.
For more detail on his positions, check out HIS site at www.lileks.com

Thats Moorhead in the lower half of the photo and Fargo in the upper half. The wild Red river runs through the middle. This view is looking west from Moorhead. Posted by Hello

Oh, yeah, this is what it's going to look like around here pretty soon. Funny how easy it is to forget. Posted by Hello

Monday, October 11, 2004


A revealing -- and devastating -- look into his fundamentally misguided world view of John Kerry. Here is what we already know about how John Kerry would fight the war on terror:

Back to when terrorism was a "nuisance".

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
    President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
    President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
    Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
    Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
    Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
    Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
    Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
    Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
    Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
    Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
    Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
    Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
    Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
    Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
    Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
    Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
    Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

Voter Intimidation?

I'm still waiting for the bullet to come whizzing through the living room window for having a Bush/Cheney sign in my yard. (I'm on my 3rd set, they keep getting taken.)
I've had the pleasure of experienceing a case of Kerry/Edwards road rage already.

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Men videotaped vandalizing sign
Summit elections official catches culprits tearing down Bush-Cheney poster
By Marilyn Miller and Andale Gross
Beacon Journal staff writers

Two men who tore down a Bush-Cheney sign and urinated on it were caught on videotape by Summit County Republican officials early Friday morning.
The videotape shows the men sneaking into the yard of a West Market Street home and bending the sign to the ground. The men struggled to rip the sign out of the ground by shaking it and pulling it but couldn't get it off the posts, so they knocked it down. Sounds heard on the tape suggest the men urinated on the sign. They were white males, about 30 to 35 years old, well-dressed and well-groomed. They parked across the street in what police think was a foreign car, a Toyota or Honda.
The homeowner, Steve Kotsatos, who is also assistant to the director of the Summit County Board of Elections, called Akron police dispatchers at 10:38 a.m. Friday and told them about how his campaign sign was vandalized.
He said he caught the vandals on a night-vision camera he had installed the day before.
``A couple of days ago my neighbor's sign was set on fire with a blowtorch so I figured I might be next,'' Kotsatos said. ``This is not only criminal damaging but a safety hazard.''
The large 4-by-8-foot, red, white and blue sign was tipped over in Kotsatos' yard about 1 a.m. Friday.
John Kerry's name was scrawled across Bush's name in black marker on one side of the sign -- the work of previous vandals, Kotsatos said.
He discovered the bent sign at 6:45 a.m.
Police took a report of the incident and retrieved a copy of the videotape to review. No arrests have been made.
Akron police Lt. Sylvia Trundle said depending on the amount of damage -- officials estimate the sign's value at $200 to $400 -- the culprits could be charged with vandalism, but if the value is $500 or more they could face criminal damaging or criminal mischief charges. They are all misdemeanors and would carry a maximum sentence of six months in jail and/or a $1,000 fine.
Local Republicans and Democrats say the stealing and damaging of campaign signs has been worse this presidential race than in past races. In some cases, the signs have been shredded and burned.
According to the Summit County Republican Party, about 3,000 of the 4,000 signs the GOP has handed out supporting Bush and Cheney have been taken from yards or damaged.
More than 1,000 signs backing Sen. Kerry, D-Mass., and running mate Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., have been taken from yards, according to the Summit County Democratic Party.
Both parties deny taking part in any sign stealing.
Even political leaders like Summit GOP Party Chairman Alex Arshinkoff and Summit Democratic Party Finance Chairman Wayne Jones have seen their signs targeted.
Officials in Medina, Wayne and Portage counties also have reported thefts of campaign signs.
Area police departments say they investigate sign theft complaints when they get them. They say it's best when a description of the vandals or their vehicle can be given.
Kotsatos said he had a Bush sign in his yard four years ago and nobody bothered it. The Republican Party is looking into a possible $1,000 reward for any information that leads to the arrest and conviction of the men.